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	<title>Comments on: Basic Sidemount Class &#8211; Day 2</title>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 06:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wolfy,

I&#039;m glad you enjoy my reports and posts on various problems.

The hose routing is detailed on my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.deepseasherpa.com/blog/equipment/how-to-route-hoses-on-sidemount-tanks/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to Route Hoses on Sidemount Tanks&lt;/a&gt; post.

The necklace (from the left tank) is around the neck.  The long hose (from the right tank) sits on top.  Routing is across the chest, behind the neck, and feeds from the right side.  This routing is very similar to Hogarthian routing for backmount.

Not the cleanest picture (I&#039;ll look for better), but here&#039;s a front&#039;ish shot.
&lt;img src=&quot;http://deepseasherpa.com/images/sidemount_dc.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;sidemount hose routing from front&quot; /&gt;
You can see the long hose coming from the diver&#039;s right tank, across the chest, behind the neck, and attached to the right shoulder D-ring.

You are correct, donating when the long hose is clipped is not a direct from the mouth donation.  However, it does not require significant effort to unclip and then donate.  Similar to diving stages in Hogarthian set-up and you need to deliver the long hose.  People diving Hogarthian are familiar with a clipped long hose, so receiving donation is not a surprise.

In addition, we breath off the long hose at the beginning and end of the dives.  Since these are the two more likely times when an OOG occurs, we&#039;re better set-up for donation.

The set-up you describe requires 3 regulators?  2 primary breathing and 1 back-up for deployment?  Definitely works, but I don&#039;t see any efficiency benefits from donating from bungee vs. donating from clipped.  I&#039;d have to play with it, though adding additional equipment doesn&#039;t fit with minimalistic diving practices for Hogarthian and sidemount diving.  Lastly, I&#039;d be concerned about restowing, either from an S-Drill or a resolved emergency.  Definitely not insurmountable, but it would require more work than long hose around the body.

It would be great to see your set-up.

Thanks!

-Don</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolfy,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you enjoy my reports and posts on various problems.</p>
<p>The hose routing is detailed on my <a href="http://www.deepseasherpa.com/blog/equipment/how-to-route-hoses-on-sidemount-tanks/" rel="nofollow">How to Route Hoses on Sidemount Tanks</a> post.</p>
<p>The necklace (from the left tank) is around the neck.  The long hose (from the right tank) sits on top.  Routing is across the chest, behind the neck, and feeds from the right side.  This routing is very similar to Hogarthian routing for backmount.</p>
<p>Not the cleanest picture (I&#8217;ll look for better), but here&#8217;s a front&#8217;ish shot.<br />
<img src="http://deepseasherpa.com/images/sidemount_dc.jpg" alt="sidemount hose routing from front" /><br />
You can see the long hose coming from the diver&#8217;s right tank, across the chest, behind the neck, and attached to the right shoulder D-ring.</p>
<p>You are correct, donating when the long hose is clipped is not a direct from the mouth donation.  However, it does not require significant effort to unclip and then donate.  Similar to diving stages in Hogarthian set-up and you need to deliver the long hose.  People diving Hogarthian are familiar with a clipped long hose, so receiving donation is not a surprise.</p>
<p>In addition, we breath off the long hose at the beginning and end of the dives.  Since these are the two more likely times when an OOG occurs, we&#8217;re better set-up for donation.</p>
<p>The set-up you describe requires 3 regulators?  2 primary breathing and 1 back-up for deployment?  Definitely works, but I don&#8217;t see any efficiency benefits from donating from bungee vs. donating from clipped.  I&#8217;d have to play with it, though adding additional equipment doesn&#8217;t fit with minimalistic diving practices for Hogarthian and sidemount diving.  Lastly, I&#8217;d be concerned about restowing, either from an S-Drill or a resolved emergency.  Definitely not insurmountable, but it would require more work than long hose around the body.</p>
<p>It would be great to see your set-up.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>-Don</p>
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		<title>By: WolfY</title>
		<link>http://www.deepseasherpa.com/blog/training/basic-sidemount-class-day-2/comment-page-1/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>WolfY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Lately I have been reading everything about SM and Cave diving. I&#039;ve read many of your reports and reply&#039;s on the relevant forums. Thanks for sharing you knowledge and experience. I really enjoyed reading your posts.

Since you have been learning from Steve Bougarts (a diver and person that only from seeing videos and reading) I really admire. I wounder about reg. config and routing.

With the two reg&#039;s on your neck (w.necklace) its is impossible to be &quot;like Hogartian&quot; with long hose handing routine. What do you do with the longhose reg when not in use? If clipped to the D-ring, as I guess it is and not around the neck with necklace you can&#039;t hand it as it is meant to be.

Today I&#039;m using the long hose tucked with 2 loops along the tank and ready to be pulled when needed. Whiles a second reg from the same (right tank) is on my neck. Works with both single or double set&#039;s on SM.

Your opinion would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

WolfY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Lately I have been reading everything about SM and Cave diving. I&#8217;ve read many of your reports and reply&#8217;s on the relevant forums. Thanks for sharing you knowledge and experience. I really enjoyed reading your posts.</p>
<p>Since you have been learning from Steve Bougarts (a diver and person that only from seeing videos and reading) I really admire. I wounder about reg. config and routing.</p>
<p>With the two reg&#8217;s on your neck (w.necklace) its is impossible to be &#8220;like Hogartian&#8221; with long hose handing routine. What do you do with the longhose reg when not in use? If clipped to the D-ring, as I guess it is and not around the neck with necklace you can&#8217;t hand it as it is meant to be.</p>
<p>Today I&#8217;m using the long hose tucked with 2 loops along the tank and ready to be pulled when needed. Whiles a second reg from the same (right tank) is on my neck. Works with both single or double set&#8217;s on SM.</p>
<p>Your opinion would be appreciated.</p>
<p>Thanks in advance</p>
<p>WolfY</p>
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